I'm with you Kayse on the "primordial waste." What exactly is "The process of taking command of our own feces and urine"? I don't care to know. Besides Shukmanns use/view of primordial waste I found his incorporation of organic material and landscape quite enlightening. I totally agree with Schukmann's description of the materialistic world we live in that is manifested by television and money. I have strong views on the media and the evil role it can play on society. Schuckman also mentions how surprised people are with the things he creates with materials that are right under are noses and that we take for granted, it shows how how of touch a lot of people are with nature and how technology makes people forget about the importance of preserving the environment.Another aspect of shuckmanns art that i thought was interesting was the fact that he would make something, let nature have its way with the structure, then reconfigure the artwork, so it was a continously evolving piece.